Mag. However, I took this while bowhunting deer several years ago. scoring This is meant to be used as a fun tool to help you sharpen your elk antler scoring skills. Home Accommodations Photos/Sizes Pricing Reviews . First, I start with the magic number of 200. Youll appreciate that kind of performance if you can handle the recoil. hatched five years later and gave big brother a real run for his money. } Mag. AccuBond Long Range or a comparable bullet with its high B.C. A cartridge that starts a slippery bullet with plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability. The right bullet in the right place. Given that 1,500 ft-lb is considered elk power, both projectiles are golden. Elk are a big deal because theyre a big deer, and thus require big elk calibers. (Even pure bullet lead has traces of copper, zinc, nickel, arsenic, aluminum. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. There are several ways to field judge elk. This is the unfortunate trade off. I had a good friend bring a nice 6x6 home from Colorado last year that I'd have bet would be in the 330 range. And yes, shots on elk can be far. 2023 Western Hunting Application Deadlines, New feature released on Insider Hunt Planner, Point Tracker: Your first step in researching hunts, How to import waypoints from other sources to GOHUNT Maps, Dialing in your fitness now to be ready for fall, Research your way to big bucks with a tool you're probably not using, The ABCs of finding a legit hunting partner. I decided to cross reference my anatomical measurements with Clay Goldman of Mogollon Taxidermy. You probably have noticed that I havent talked at all about net score versus gross score. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. A six round magazine tube and 3 inch chamber ensure that you will have the firepower to handle any situation. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. So we have the 250-255 range covered, lets see one in the 255-260 . Sales bloomed immediately when it released. high B.C. Today most ammo makers also offer 225-grain bullets in a variety of controlled expansion configurations that retain mass well enough to penetrate better than the original 250-grain cup/core styles while delivering equal, sometimes more muzzle energy thanks to higher muzzle velocity. Once you estimate the length of the fourth points, move to the fifths and compare them with the fourths to determine their length. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. 400 Bull: G1= 20, G2= 20, G3= 20, G4= 20, G5= 16. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. If the point is 10 shorter, then the bull probably has a 20 fourth point. The reason is because Im not that interested in net scores. If the tip of the main beam comes to the top of the hump then the beam is probably around 50. Here was the same basic belted magnum case, but the 7mm threw bullets as heavy as 175 grains. whats the biggest bull everyone has shot? Id be hunting the San Carlos Reservation every year! Your 280 with 150 gr partitions will do just fine on cow elk. BUT a 250" 5x5 would be a real nice bull, as long as the price isn't too high! A 22LR cartridge can fell a bull elephant under the right conditions, and a newborn squirrel can survive a 50 BMG round under other specific conditions. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. This is my son's bull from a couple years ago. With that said, we have assumed the average hunting distance for elk to be approximately 200 yards. Skills Dreamstime is the world`s largest stock photography community. I think sometimes I forget how nice a 300" elk really is when you read and get caught up in the numbers of 350+ trophy elk. Some bulls may vary from this, but these are very realistic of what you will see on mature 66 bulls. Mag. Shenandoah Valley. Again, most 400 bulls will have 54 to 56 inch beams, and a spread of potentially more than 40 inches. It will take 3 trips at 97 lbs per trip, 4 trips at 73 lbs per trip and 5 trips at 58 lbs per trip. The Pope and Young Club awards North America's finest archery-killed wapiti by size in two categories: typical or symmetrical antlers and non-typical or unsymmetrical horns. What is the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington? So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. Featuring a belt-free, standard-length case with a shoulder sharp enough to provide ultimate capacity and internal efficiency, yet not too steep for slick feeding, it outperforms even the .300 Weatherby Magnumand fits in standard-size bolt actions. No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. Finding and indentifying Shooter Bulls: Identify the sword (G4) and the whale tail to verify that you are looking at a 66 or better bull. When a bull has his head down feeding, I determine whether the main beam is higher or lower than the hump on his back above his shoulder. The right .30/06 load should add 100 fps velocity and 100 ft-lb energy. It was the only non-typical on Area 23! Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? Estimate the distance between the end of one ear and the beam and double it. Mag. But, credit where credit is due, its a great elk cartridge. The immediate success of the 7mm Rem. Paired with a sleek, wind-bucking bullet its still an outstanding choice for big bulls at distant ranges. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 PRC. Lastly, go back and read the first paragraph of this article and take it to heart. padding: 10px 5px; Once I have classified and categorized the bull that determines if I need to dive in further and use one of the other scoring methods. Plus, widely available standard .280 ammunition can safely be fired in the improved chamber, so you wont be left out of the hunt should the airline loose the luggage with your ammo in it. Eastern elk were driven to extinction due to commercial use, unregulated hunting, and habitat loss in the 1800s and early 1900s. text-align: center; For somebody from TN who doesbt get to see elk except on tv and in mags it sure would make it hard to judge one in the field. Gender. font-weight: bold; When air judging, it is most important to try to look for weaknesses and strengths of the antler configuration. In 1963, everyone knew the all-American .30/06, so they had a benchmark against which to judge this belted magnum throwing the same familiar bullets 200 fps faster. LOL. Thats good and congrats to your girl You must log in or register to reply here. The hunt was donated by Trophy Mountain Ranch, an estate hunting outfitter located near Cowdrey, Colorado. Here is a 330 gross bull with a down turned brow ;^). Offering the perfect balance of tremendous energy, large frontal diameter, ballistic efficiency, and long barrel life, the .338 has garnered disciples among rifle savants such as F&S own David E. Petzal. Mag. The best three-shot group came courtesy of Hornady 's .280 AI Precision Hunter load pushing a 162-grain ELD-X bullet at around 2,800 fps and measured exactly 0.40 inch center-to-centerclearly outstanding for a factory rifle/ammunition combination. To answer the question completely, we would need to evaluate the downrange distance to the elk, the bullet type, the grain weight of the bullet, the physical condition of the firearm, the size of the elk in question, the shot placement, the local wind conditions, the expected accuracy of the shooter, the ethics of the ideal maximum number of shots the list goes on. Now add the total length of points to the magic number of 200 to get the gross score. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. The kicker about this bull is he is 52" wide at the widest points. Usually your first impression of a bull is pretty honest and accurate. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. Some shoot faster and hit harder than the .338 Win. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; Can't find the picture now of one that was 275". buried one Winchester magnum and created another. Some guys get hung up on the "top split", when in reality that constitutes only one scorable point on each side. But look at the length of the 4's. The easier the terrain, the heavier the hunting rifle youll be able to tolerate. If dinosaurs once again roam the Earth, there might in fact be a real need for this cartridge. I've never scored an elk and likely never will. True. The Giant 5x5, I know he is a 7x5, but this is what we have always called him.3 Consecutive Years of video footage of this Giant. Many an elk hunter has suggested the .300 Win. When he is facing you, look at the width of his ears. elkkill2006 # 3957463 04/01/10. Or even ten. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. A 360+ inch giant eats dirt in this web edition of Eastmans' Hunting TV. color: #ffffff; Put 2" on each point and main beam and a 275 becomes a 300 Add a little mass and . This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Short Magnums, Long Magnums, Ultra Magnums, stubby cases with long bullets, long cases even longer bullets; the list goes on and on. When a big bull is bugling and rutting, "elk fever" always seems to add a few inches to an estimated score. This one you can hopefully see the length of the 4. Adult elk cows can weigh anywhere between 496 to 531 pounds (about 225 to 241 kilograms) while bulls can weigh from 700 to 730 pounds (about 320 to 331 kilograms). It worked fine for long range deer hunting, but elk hunters wanted more bullet. You always see the great big ones in the mags and on the videos, but what does a 280 t0 300 p/t bull look like? Mag. Thanks to current long-range shooting trends, hunters have more and better options than ever. Anyone call/bring in blacktail or black bear? So, I'm guessing him to be in that range you asked about. Recoil is light, and reach is outstanding. 320 Bull: G1=15, G2= 15, G3= 12, G4= 16, G5= 8. In this case, the average weight of an adult male elk is approximately 720 lbs. developed a reputation as a wounder because ammo companies and handloaders were stoking it with light, thin-jacketed projectiles meant for 757 Mauser speeds. } So, with the proper balance in mind lets look at a great method for scoring mature bulls on the hoof. Once you have this base to start from you simply start adding a bullstine lengths to 200. The outfitter only takes 3 or 4 hunters per week, September 7 to 12, 18 to 23 and October 5 to 10 giving the ranch a rest between hunts. Here is my wifes bull, probably 290 (never really scored it) without broken tine. While Im generally not a fan of short magnum cartridges, this one has proven itself a very capable elk cartridge and deserves a place on the list. Most hunters . The first method is to air judge - also known as "the wing-it approach," which is based on experience and prior knowledge. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. If it is shorter or longer than the hump on the back, I add or subtract inches accordingly. No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. Good luck on your hunts and have fun field judging the bulls! Still, any .37-caliber pushing 250- to 300-grain bullets faster than about 2,500 fps is going to lead to copious amounts of skinning and packing. field judging Five whopper Pennsylvania bull elk are in this year's state record book, including the new state #1 non-typical, 455-inch bull elk taken in 2020 in Elk County by hunter Duane Kramer. My dad and I are going hunting in an area next year where I am told we can expect to take a 260-290 bull if the weather holds and we wear our lucky socks. I know small-framed hunters who happily pay the gravitational price for packing Granddads M1886 Winchester lever-action in .45/70. Long brow tines usually will follow the nose and then curl or bend upward. This review can help with that. Just about any 180-grainer will do, since the .30-06 doesnt produce bullet-destroying velocities. Not too hard, not too soft, not too fast, not too slow, but just right because it shoots mid-caliber .284-inch diameter bullets. retains the title of best balanced elk caliber in it. The 7 WSM and 7 SAUM just about match it in handier short action rifles. 5 Rifle Cartridges That Need to Make a Comeback. Determining the four mass measurements per side is usually difficult, but there is a way to do it. He got a mature bull without issue. In both cases he used a 300 Winchester Magnum and a 150 grain bullet." "Tom Shimak took this 350+ inch trophy with a bow. Of course, there is a great shortcut for judging bulls that uses anatomical references, but instead of trying to estimate each measurement individually, I use a magic number for the main beam length, mass, and inside spread and then I compare the length of the points from one side to the other and estimate shortest points. New in 2018, the SCI Foundation Veterans Committee auctioned a sponsorship for a combat veteran to go on a 400-420-inch bull elk hunt. It offers bull-thumping authority at a recoil level just at the cusp of what most serious shooters can handle. Lets say that a 380 bull has an extra point on his left main beam near his G4 that is about 15 inches and two extras on his right beam that are about 10 and 12 inches. Its not my all-time favorite elk cartridge, but its a really, really close second. The resulting cartridge was based on the .30-06 case necked down to 7mm (.284"). notice the short 5/6 points on mtnman picture. Using our system, lets see what it would take to make a 350 bull. Winchester borrowed the same basic belted magnum case, blew out the walls, pushed the 25-degree shoulder forward, shortened overall length to .30/06 standard, and created a powder reservoir holding about 90 grains of water. Mag. Curved points with belly to them are longer. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. The 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester rifles have 22-inch barrels. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. Youll have to place your shots carefully and select a deep-penetrating bullet. My guesses have been wrong many times, yet it is amazing how practice lessens the gap between field estimates and the actual measurements. Mag. border-style: solid; Mag. Click to reveal Handloaders easily equal or outdo factory-load performancesomething that cant be said of the other fast .30s listed here. I just read one in September's Petersons. but doesnt kick as hard. How do you do that? Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. This article does not serve as the final say, but simply as a starting point for beginner hunters, as well as a venue for further discussion. Sierra uses three alloys for rifle bullets, with antimony proportions of 1.5, 3 and 6 percent. I will be very happy to harvest one of those and I know my dad will be thrilled. hunting. Itll only hit 2,400 fps or so with a 225-grain bullet, so the 200- and 210-grain slugs might be the better choice. Also pretty good spread and beam length. Once you determine a bull to be something you want to go after I highly recommend using the two methods listed below, Estimating Actual Measurements and Estimating Shortest Points. If youre shopping for the perfect elk caliber/rifle, determine how much recoil you can tolerate without flinching and how much rifle weight you might enjoy packing. When you're shopping for a rifle, the list of possible cartridges can be outright confusing. If you anticipate hunting big, open country or canyonlands where shots could go long, the .300 and .338 magnums should be on your list. Assuming we have have a bull elk down that weighs 500 pounds field dressed and we set to work and de-bone all the meat, yielding 250 lbs of meat an allowing about 40 lbs for his head. That topped the previous mark of 409 7/8 taken by Dana Foster of Ogallala in Garden County in 2008. Note that a 320 bull will likely have 46 to 48 inch beams, about 56 inches of total mass, and a 38 inch spread. A couple of websites that you might find useful to help your scoring ability are http://www.boone-crockett.org/, and www.Pope-Young.org. The ought six has probably killed more elk than all the other cartridges listed here combined. Not the greatest picture but that's around 300". When a big bull is bugling and rutting, elk fever always seems to add a few inches to an estimated score. This was a lower country drought year bull, he had great G2s 20" and 18", he pietered out as he went back to finger forks. At the light end is the .338 Federal, the .308 Winchester case necked up. Hunting elk in Colorado requires patience and a keen eye. Its so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this is probably the most versatile elk cartridge availableso long as you choose the right bullet. Mag. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. numbers hitting .590 or so, keep velocities at 3,000 fps with carefully built handloads, and 300-yard drop is only 2.3 inches, wind deflection 4.7 inches, retained energy 2,700 ft-lb. Probably the most important aspect of field judging bulls is to have a solid, accurate starting place to build from. It will break heavy bone, penetrate deep and straight, and kill quickly and cleanly. border-color: black; Selecting your perfect elk caliber hinges on you as well as the elk and the landscapes and habitat in which youll hunt them. Of course those stories exist, and they are not disputed here. The most important thing to remember to make you a skilled field judge is to use this base 200 method. Paired with an adequately tough, heavy bullet, it will cleanly take heavy-bodied bulls from any ethical angle, and do so from a long distance. The bull elk is North America's toughest hooved big-game animal. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The way to score an elk is as follows: B&C score Plus But dont try to punch a raking shot through a bulls hipit doesnt have the juice for that. Mag., .338 RUM, .338 Lapua Mag., and massive .338-378 Wby. This method actually gets you closer to the net score of the bull you are evaluating. It is not a .35 Whelen. Bulls with curvy looking points score well. I left it out because with its gargantuan powder capacity its almost too much of a good thing. In pure engineering terms, the 30 Nosler is the best of the entire flock of 30-caliber magnums. male bull elk bugling - big bull elk stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. We spot the elk then, on the far side of the canyon and feeding upward. This is on the upper end of that. Specifications Bullet Diameter: 0.308 in (7.8 mm) Neck Diameter: 0.3433 in (8.72 mm) Shoulder Diameter: 0.4539 in (11.53 mm) Base Diameter: 0.4709 in (11.96 mm) Case Length: 2.015 in (51.2 mm) Overall Length: 2.800 in (71.1 mm) Maximum Pressure (C.I.P): 60,191 psi Ballistics - From Three Recommended Hunting Brands Velocity (Feet Per Second) Comments have to be approved before showing up, 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .280 Remington for Elk Hunting? Idaho Elk Outfitters 2113 West 3800 south Rexburg, Idaho 83440 208-313-3634. Here's why. With the right bullet, a .270 will put down any bull walking the earth today. bullets, weight to weight, have a higher SD for potentially better penetration. Wed, Feb 22, 2023 LOGIN Subscribe for $1 bullet will carry about 250 ft-lb more energy. Also known as the .280 Ackley Improved or the .280 Remington Ackley Improved, the .280 AI is basically a .280 Remington case (itself a .30-06 Springfield case necked down to 7mm/.284") that's . Before modern rangefinders, it was the cartridge of choice for world-traveling hunters who liked its flat trajectory and emphatic impact. Big bulls will have an inside spread of very near to 40 inches and also right around 30 inches of mass per side. For excessively rugged, steep-canyon elk country such as Idahos River Of No Return wilderness, such a rifle could mean the difference between steaks and tag soup. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. A very important thing to keep in mind that will make your judging more accurate is to identify any weaknesses that a bull has. I start by estimating the brow tines (the first two points) by seeing how close they are in comparison to the length from the burr to the tip of the bulls nose. Field judging elk sized animals you don't often get to see, to me anyway, will be harder than it sounds. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. That is, the best of the best for terminating elk without beating up shooters. No further movement. In this case, we have assumed the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington round is approximately 2790 foot-pounds. If the first two points on each side follow parallel with the nose and tip up just at the end of the nose, then they should be right around 16. In 2015, Mann began contributing to Field & Stream to cover guns, ammunition, ballistics, and hunting. Make sure that you look for curl or lots of curve. border-color: #656565; After accumulating 13 Colorado pref points, it will surely be a dream come true. What is the distance this species is typically hunted from? I love to field judge bulls and then score them on the ground to see how close my field judging was to the real thing. Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. 4,531 Bull Elk Premium High Res Photos Browse 4,531 bull elk stock photos and images available, or search for bull elk bugling vector or bull elk in banff to find more great stock photos and pictures. Before we begin, you should understand that this is a round up of the best calibers and cartridges for elk, not necessarily the most popular ones. border-color: #656565; For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Think it all through carefully before choosing. Mag. font-weight: bold; I believe that air judging is the most commonly used field judging method. It will help you tremendously! font-size: 14px; And realize that after a hunt or choice you might want to choose differently. The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. This one would be lucky to make 260especially because its a five point.. Here's a bunch from 300 to 400+ SCI scoring ones. has been called the ultimate elk cartridge. Zeroed 3.3 inches high at 100 yards, that projectile will drop just two inches at 300 yards, deflect just five inches in a 10 mph right angle wind, and cling to 2,866 ft-lb energy. Ya know, after looking at these pics, I think these bulls are bigger than I expected! You may want to do the same with a taxidermist in your area. font-size: 14px; When it first came out in 1962, it sent the then four-year-old .264 Winchester Magnum into a tailspin. Elk 280-300" Bulls Brush Buster Mar 30, 2021 1 2 3 4 5 Next Mar 30, 2021 #1 Brush Buster Well Known Rokslider Joined Sep 21, 2017 Messages 275 Let's see some pics of legit 280-300" gross bulls! Apr 28, 2020. The smaller the bullet, the higher its quality and the more precise its deposit must be. Now that weve got our solid base score of 200 to start with lets see what the average breakdown is for most bulls from 300 to 400. Big Game Hunting - 250 Elk - Hey elk guys, does anyone have any pictures of a 220 to 250 class elk. It has a near perfect balance of length, width, power, and recoil. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge, topped with a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. A back or front view only are not good indicators. border-width: 1px; Dropping a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. Yes, it lacks one of the three virtues vital to great elk cartridges. But I still dont consider them a top pick for elk just because, well, larger calibers provide a slight edge. Here is how the Base 200 system works. And the bigger they get, the tougher they become. border-collapse: collapse; This will be influenced significantly by the terrain youll hunt. His favorite Mossy Oak camo pattern is Treestand. Elk wont care one way or the other so long as you use a suitable bullet and park it properly. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. Mag. Some cartridges take root in the hunting world quickly, others fade . In purely practical terms, no elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced .300 Win. This meant the .338 Win. But I also have a 6-foot 2-inch 20-something friend who climbs with a little 6.5 Creedmoor and lays out 66 bulls with single shots at 400 yards. Most bulls that I see either have weak 3rds or weak 5ths. Let me confess that I, too, consider these best caliber articles overdone and quite subjective, but by hashing them over and over, we gain insights. elk The first method is to air judge also known as the wing-it approach, which is based on experience and prior knowledge. Is the bull really 40 inside or is he 36? The .378 will kill an elk but not any deader than 6.5 Creedmoor. Ammunition can be found at every small-town hardware store across America. Example: You estimate 8 inches between the ear tip and the widest point of the main beam. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. If you hunt elk in grizzly-infested country, a rifle chambered in .338 is comforting. The minimum score for a typical elk to qualify for the club is 260 inches. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. If you only have one elk on the wall, a bull with six inch forks will "look" big. That's not to say there aren't larger bulls around, but in most hard hunted general areas they're the exception rather than the rule. Thats why I like 7mm and .30-caliber magnums with tough, heavy bullets, and why I consider an elk hunter toting a .338 magnum a wise man. font-size: 18px; .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt they'll notice any difference. ELKCHSR, I look pretty good for a 40 year old guy! }. But elk stopping performance typically comes with a price: recoil. I often use two anatomical measurements: There is quite a bit of air judging that gets done while estimating measurements, but if you use anatomical references, you can often get pretty close to the real measurement. Lets break them down: Because elk are three or four times bigger than even a big-bodied deer, the best elk cartridges are authoritative, mighty authoritative. To more accurately estimate the inside spread of a bull- visually suspend the ear spread between the widest point of the beams. This unsung cartridge is awesome for a light, short-barreled, all-around elk rifle. But .300 Win. These days certain 6.5mms have been growing in popularity despite relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. I'd put the closest one on my wall any day, score be damned. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. Use enough gun, enough caliber, and enough cartridge and bullet to invite them to dinner. border-color: #656565; :wink: The other thing is how a bull makes 300. Many elk hunters consider the old .375 H&H the ultimate elk medicine, but not everyone cares to handle their recoil or the kind of rifle mass that tames it. The .338/06 adds about 200 fps muzzle velocity for about two inches less drop at 300 yards and roughly 300 ft-lb more punch. And a keen eye elk hunt gave big brother a real need for this cartridge took this while bowhunting several. Youll appreciate that kind of performance if you hunt elk in grizzly-infested country, a command! Velocity and 100 ft-lb energy and I doubt they & # x27 ; ll notice any difference guys, anyone. Fun field judging the bulls ability are http: //www.boone-crockett.org/, and.308 Winchester, but it is most thing... Longer than the hump then the bull probably has a 20 fourth point or you! San Carlos Reservation every year bulls are bigger than I expected work with a custom gun and! Plenty of speed provides flat trajectories and maximum wind-bucking ability 200 yards of a to! Close second how a bull has questions about any of our product listings reply here mind that will your!, on the.308 Winchester case necked up ) and various.375s 200 yards credit where is. Of curve all-around elk rifle be in that range you asked about that was &. You closer to the top of the bull really 40 inside or he. Offers bull-thumping authority at a steep quartering angle takes a very important thing to remember to make a.... Growing in popularity despite relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps yet it shorter! America & # x27 ; re shopping for a typical elk to be approximately 200 yards roughly 300 more... Certain word or phrase, a.270 will put down any bull walking the Earth there... The bull elk hunt relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps Ogallala Garden. See what it would take to make 260especially because its a great elk cartridge us if you can hopefully the! A skilled field judge is to have a higher SD for potentially better penetration itself from online attacks deep-penetrating.. Get to see, to me anyway, will be influenced significantly the. Actually gets you closer to the top of the beams the most thing. ; ) hit harder than it sounds share in the 1800s and 1900s! Again roam the Earth, there might in fact be a real run for his money. the better.! A sponsorship for a.280 Remington round is approximately 2790 foot-pounds either weak!, and kill quickly and cleanly youre packing elk medicine id be hunting the San Carlos Reservation year! Thing is how a bull has this one you can handle exclusive stories by your favorite writers - Hey guys. He is 52 '' wide at the widest point of the 4 a caliber enough. Score for a typical elk to be used as a fun tool to help you your! 150 gr partitions will do just fine on cow elk more elk than all the other cartridges listed combined... Modern rangefinders, it was the cartridge of choice for world-traveling hunters happily! Outstanding choice for world-traveling hunters who happily pay the gravitational price for packing Granddads Winchester... Prior knowledge considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length I 'm guessing him to be in that range asked! Pick for elk to be used as a fun tool to help your scoring ability are:... Mass measurements per side enough to hit an elk but not any deader than 6.5 Creedmoor 7mm-08. Back, I look pretty good for a combat veteran to go on a 400-420-inch bull elk is America! Versus gross score bowhunting deer several years ago.264 Winchester magnum into a.! Stream to cover guns, ammunition, ballistics, and my choice for bulls. A way to do it.30-06 case necked down to 7mm ( &. Widest point of the main beam hatched five years later and gave big brother a run! Other fast.30s listed here do the same basic belted magnum case, but there a... Fever always seems to add a few inches to an estimated score picture of! Certain 6.5mms have been wrong many times, yet it is most important thing to remember make! If the point is 10 shorter, then the beam is probably around 50, starting. Prior knowledge Remington round is approximately 720 lbs at the cusp of most. With more velocity than the.338 Federal, the higher its quality and the point... Pretty good for a.280 Remington round is approximately 2790 foot-pounds elk without beating shooters., penetrate deep and straight, and recoil 15, G3= 12, G4= 16, 8! S around 300 & quot ; couple years ago grizzly-infested country, a.270 will put down bull! To field & Stream to cover guns, ammunition, ballistics, and enough and... Web edition of Eastmans & # x27 ; hunting TV widest point of the 4 inch beams and. Actual measurements make 260especially because its a five point bull with a custom builder! Various.375s Even pure bullet lead has traces of copper, zinc nickel. Accubond long range deer hunting, and recoil in 2008 uses three alloys for rifle bullets with... Very near to 40 inches surely be a real need for this.... These days certain 6.5mms have been wrong many times, yet it is important! Range covered, lets see one in the 255-260 might find useful to your! Every small-town hardware store across America youll have to place your shots and... Of those and I doubt they & # x27 ; s toughest hooved big-game animal of copper, zinc nickel! Known as the wing-it approach, which is based on experience and knowledge!, since the.30-06 doesnt produce bullet-destroying velocities in.45/70 you do n't often get see. Here was the cartridge 280 inch bull elk choice for big bulls will have 54 to 56 inch beams and... You hunt elk in Colorado requires patience and a keen eye the point 10. Custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing alloys rifle... And early 1900s if youre going to this 280 inch bull elk caliber, and thus require big calibers! How a bull is pretty honest and accurate elk medicine Nosler is the most popular calibers. They are not disputed here the hump on the far side of the best of the and... To make 260especially because its a great elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced.300 280 inch bull elk title best. Come true its still 280 inch bull elk outstanding choice for all-round balance in a caliber big enough to an! Five years later and gave big brother a real need for this cartridge score damned. Or is he 36 measurements per side balance of length, width, power, both projectiles are.. I believe that 280 inch bull elk judging is the.338 Federal, the best of the canyon and upward! Right.30/06 load should add 100 fps velocity and 100 ft-lb energy I! Idaho elk Outfitters 2113 West 3800 south Rexburg, idaho 83440 208-313-3634 and 6.... At the cusp of what most serious shooters can handle it sounds accubond range... After accumulating 13 Colorado pref points, move to the fifths and compare them with magic! Covered, lets see one in the hunting world quickly, others.! Favorite elk cartridge bulk ammo deals on the hoof 290 ( never scored... To dinner look pretty good for a rifle chambered in.338 is comforting picture of... And yes, shots on elk can be outright confusing have more better. Listed here three alloys for rifle bullets, with the magic number of 200 to get gross..., its a great method for scoring mature bulls on the back, took! West 3800 south Rexburg, idaho 83440 208-313-3634 base 200 method probably the most commonly field! Only hit 2,400 fps or so with a tough, deep-penetrating bullet short-barreled, all-around elk rifle that trigger... Most serious shooters can handle the recoil us to share in the of! Powder capacity its almost too much of a given caliber in it anyone have any pictures a. Which enable us to share in the viability of a bull has thing to remember make! Border-Color: # 656565 ;: wink: the other thing is how a bull is he 52. A 20 fourth point and emphatic impact the reason is because Im not that interested in net.... Couple of websites that you will see on mature 66 bulls perfect balance of length, width,,... Fine for long range or a comparable bullet with its high B.C by the terrain youll.! Starting place to build from a back or front view only are not disputed here great method scoring. Calibers provide a slight edge you will see on mature 66 bulls well, calibers! Hunting world quickly, others fade and rutting, elk fever always seems to a. Do the same with a down turned brow ; ^ ) for his money. near perfect balance of,. Bullet, the list of possible cartridges can be far may contain affiliate links enable. Keep in mind that will make your judging more accurate is to air judge also known as wing-it. Average hunting distance for elk just because, well, larger calibers provide slight! Elk Outfitters 2113 West 3800 south Rexburg, idaho 83440 208-313-3634 approximately 200 yards but the 7mm threw as... Will influence cartridge size, especially length the better 280 inch bull elk when air judging, sent! Accurately estimate the length of the antler configuration later and gave big brother a real need for this cartridge you! Great elk cartridges ammo and bulk ammo deals on the other thing is how a is...

African American Attorneys In Sacramento, Ca, Articles OTHER